Leo’s guest is perhaps the standout star from the Lambeth Conference, Revd Cathrine Ngangira, originally from Zimbabwe.

“Attendees were struck by her calm composure, coupled with a quiet and prayerful voice: a sharp contrast to those who felt compelled to speak out a little more loudly last week.” (Religion Media Centre). Some even mentioned her as the next Archbishop of Canterbury.

Leo asks her about her journey from rural Zimbabwe to serving as a priest in rural Kent.