Harry Baker is bright, funny, interesting and thoughtful, and so clever with words it takes your breath away - all of which is pretty much how he’s managed to be a full-time poet since graduating with a maths degree in 2015.

Also he was the youngest ever Poetry World Slam champion.

I’ve seen Harry perform several times, often with his friend Chris as comedy-rapp-jazz duo (something of a niche genre) ‘Harry and Chris’, so it was lovely to sit down and chat a bit about how this rather unexpected career has happened, how it fits with his maths degree and his faith, what it’s like performing in front of a heckling crowd.

We also talk about how his writing has helped him process some of the more difficult bits of life, and, of course, to hear some of his poetry….not least the incredibly moving piece he wrote in lockdown, ‘When this is over..’, which seems to sum up so much of how many of us feel about the past year, and what we’ve missed most.